When Grimes announced her pregnancy with Elon Musk in a controversial Instagram post in January, fans and trolls seized the chance to suggest hilarious and bizarre names. Yet while nobody could have anticipated baby Musk would be called “X Æ A-12 Musk,” thanks to a new conversation between Musk and Joe Rogan, we have a clearer idea of how to pronounce it.

According to Musk, the name was all Grimes’ idea.“She’s great at names,” he said, before clearing up our pronunciation struggles. “it’s just X, the letter X, and then the Æ is pronounced ‘Ash’ and then A-12 is my contribution. Archangel 12, the precursor to the SR-71. Coolest plane ever. It’s true.” He added, “I think it’s better being older and having a kid. I appreciate it more. Babies are awesome.”

So, “X Æ A-12 Musk” = X Ash Archangel 12.

While we’re still unsure if the outrageous couple is trolling us, it might not be worth learning how to pronounce the name anyway as it isn’t actually legal. According to TMZ, in the state of California – where baby Musk was presumably born – legal names may only incorporate letters from the English alphabet, no numerals or special characters. Obviously X Æ A-12 Musk doesn’t meet the criteria.

Musk announced his son’s unique name on Tuesday. A day later Grimes let fans in on the meaning behind the name. Taking to Twitter, the Canadian pop star gave a much-needed break down of her baby name. The X, she explains, stands for “the unknown variable” – obviously. Æ is the elven spelling for AI which represents love or Artificial Intelligence.

A-12 refers to the precursor to her and Musk’s favorite aircraft the SR-17 – although, we believe Grimes is referring to the SR-71, which actually is a strategic aircraft. The reason this makes for a perfect baby name is that it has “No weapons, no defenses, just speed. Great in battle, but non-violent.” The A in A-12 also refers to “Anarchy,” which is her favorite song.

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